When GM officially ended its EV1 electric car program in 2003 and recalled all its leased-only models, there was a feeling that it had given up on EVs. That wasn’t the case. There were rumors early on that another electric vehicle program was in the works and more evidence of this emerged just a few short years later. This article, which shares early details on the concept that would lead to the production Chevrolet Volt, is presented from our archives just as it appeared in Green Car Journal’s Winter 2006 issue. While there’s more to the Volt’s story since this electric vehicle was also discontinued in 2019 – much to the chagrin of a great many Volt owners who universally loved this vehicle and its innovative electric drivetrain – that story will have to wait for another time.
Excerpted from the Winter 2006 Issue: General Motors is back in the electric car business. First, the company announces a plug-in hybrid version of the Saturn Vue at the L.A. Auto Show. Now, GM has turned up the juice by unveiling the Chevrolet Volt, an “EV range-extender” concept car that makes petroleum an even smaller part of the equation. In fact, with its 40 mile pure electric range – which GM says covers more than half of all Americans’ daily commute to work and back – the Volt may eliminate the need for gasoline altogether for some drivers.
Central to the Volt concept is the new E-flex System, which GM says represents a rethinking of automotive propulsion that places primary focus on electric drive. Plugging in to a 110-volt outlet for about six hours will fully charge the car’s lithium-ion batteries. When the batteries run out after 40 miles of electric-only driving, a 1.0-liter,three-cylinder turbocharged engine runs at constant speed, turning a generator that replenishes the batteries. That engine could be replaced in future iterations of the concept with powerplants that run on pure ethanol (E100) or biodiesel, or even with a fuel cell running on hydrogen...thus the “flex” in the E-flex System.
In the Volt, the gas-powered engine gets about 50 mpg while it’s working to sustain the batteries. Some quick math reveals that overall fuel economy would be a staggering 150 mpg for a 60-mile drive. Run the engine on E85 ethanol, as the Volt is capable of doing, and even more gasoline use is displaced. Importantly, the Volt is able to do all this without compromising utility, which is a significant problem that plagued the truly wonderful but now infamously defunct GM EV1. The Volt will easily seat four passengers and their luggage, accelerate to 60 mph from a standstill in under 8.5 seconds, and cruise for 640 miles without refueling.
The Volt is about the size of the compact Cobalt and based on a similar vehicle architecture, yet with a much more athletic stance. The styling is sharp, edgy, and distinctively Chevrolet. One interesting feature is a transparent roof and beltline courtesy of glazed polycarbonate material from GE Plastics. The plug-in recharging ports are tastefully integrated into the front quarter fenders on either side of the vehicle.
Unfortunately, the Volt is being held back by the same culprit that actually killed the electric car the first time around: battery technology. GM admits that it is still waiting on a technological breakthrough to produce a large, production-ready lithium-ion battery pack.
GM thinks that could happen by 2010 or 2012, though we’ve been through times of optimistic predictions like this before when battery breakthroughs just didn’t come. Still, we’re crossing our fingers on the battery issue and it’s nice to see the General all charged up again.
The latest generation Prius Prime – now rebadged as the Prius Plug-In Hybrid for 2025 – has been a welcome change of pace from Toyota. Sleek, stylish, and unexpectedly fast, the debut of an all-new model in 2023 presented an unexpected departure from the pedestrian Prius stylings of old.
Don’t get us wrong: The Prius has always been a game-changer in its own right with its supreme efficiency and leading eco-consciousness. But it never was a model appealing to performance-focused auto enthusiasts or one drawing admiring looks from passers-by…until now.
Since we began our long-term test of a fifth generation Prius Prime XSE last year, we’ve found this hatchback’s overall driving experience to be just as we had hoped. While today’s Prime is similar to the previous generation with notable high efficiency and plug-in capability, there’s a world of difference that makes the model so much more compelling. First, there’s the styling. We don’t know what prompted Toyota to let its designers have at it with such a huge change in looks and an all-new ethos, but we do know what to say in response: “Thank you very much…great job!”
Beyond its now compelling appearance is the model’s newfound embrace of performance. The previous Prime used a 1.8-liter four-cylinder delivering 95 horsepower, augmented by its electric motor’s 71 horsepower. The new Prime ups the ante by nearly 100 horsepower, delivered by a 150 hp 2.0-liter engine and 161 hp electric motor. This extra power is immediately noticed and appreciated, especially during freeway driving when changing lanes and overtaking slower cars is a necessity. Plus, the extended range provided by the larger 13.6 kWh battery in this plug-in hybrid is a welcome addition, increasing electric driving range from some 25 miles to 44 miles of all-electric driving. EPA estimates the Prime XSE at an overall driving range of about 550 miles.
One of the things that often fascinates drivers is a plug-in hybrid’s ability to seamlessly blend the efficiencies of battery and hybrid drive during journeys beyond the Prime’s all-electric range. For example, on a recent roundtrip 600 mile drive down the California coast on the southbound 101 freeway, we experienced a peak combined 86.9 mpg during one segment of the trip after starting with a full charge. On the drive back and without having a charged battery, our mpg readings settled closer to 45 mpg while experiencing bouts of traffic and construction on the various highways heading back north.
On another 200 mile round-trip drive from California’s Central Coast to the Central Valley, our fuel economy remained an impressively stable 55 mpg on hybrid power alone. At times, driving conditions had degraded from a relatively clear evening and slowly gave way to dense fog. Despite the heavy fog conditions, the robust suite of technologies provided by Toyota’s Safety Sense 3.0 helped ensure a smooth and safe experience during this challenging drive with low visibility.
The assistive driving features on the Prius Prime have been indispensable on many drives taken during the past year. While many Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 systems are available, our favorites would be Proactive Driving Assist and the Traffic Jam Assist.
Adaptive cruise control typically feels more reactive than proactive, but the addition of features with the appropriately named Proactive Driving Assist helps make unfamiliar roads feel safer. Proactive Driving Assist complements Dynamic Radar Cruise Control and is a key component of the Toyota Safety Sense 3.0. Working in tandem with this system means that PDA is able to assist with breaking into curves, provide steering input to help keep you centered in the lane even during mild corners, and provide obstacle anticipation assist all at once.
Traffic Jam Assist is indispensable during drives with stop and go traffic, which was common during our drive down the California coast as we approached larger metro areas. This feature does require Toyota’s Drive Connect subscription to use, but I did find it worthwhile if stop and go traffic is a common experience. TJA operates at typical traffic jam speeds under 25 mpg and engages a host of other features, including hands free steering, acceleration, and braking during heavy traffic. Recording is also an option with Traffic Jam Assist as an added (but hopefully unneeded) feature during bumper to bumper traffic where collisions are statistically more likely. Recording is implemented during crash or crash-like events.
These driver assist features, in addition to the entire Toyota Safety Sense 3.0 suite, add comfort and an enhanced sense of safety during our frequent drives. Overall, longer drives feel less arduous with Prius Prime, which means we can focus on enjoying the road ahead and being behind the wheel of an entirely satisfying vehicle that’s comfortable and a joy to drive.
It’s clear the rise of electric vehicles (EVs) has redefined the auto industry from a product point of view. But it has also forced automakers to innovate in how they connect with shoppers. The divergence in approaches between legacy automakers and startups like Tesla reveals a key insight: selling EVs isn't just about the product; it's about understanding fundamentally different customer bases.
In their early days, EVs were perceived simply as vehicles with a novel propulsion system –an evolution from hybrid technology to fully electric zero-emission powertrains. However, battery-electric pioneers like Tesla treated the EV as a new kind of vehicle to be sold in a new kind of way. By shedding legacy design constraints and conventional distribution schemes, the car was reimagined as a software-defined product. Tesla's over-the-air (OTA) updates, which enable real-time improvements and new feature rollouts, exemplify this approach.
The idea of OTA updates shifted the paradigm from static vehicles to dynamic platforms, much like smartphones. For early adopters, the concept of a car as a constantly evolving tech product resonated deeply. These customers are drawn to the novelty, the innovation, and the sense of participating in a beta-testing community. For better or worse, the Tesla model embraced the spirit of technological experimentation.
Startups like Tesla have excelled at capturing the early adopter market, but moving into the mainstream presents significant hurdles. One of the primary challenges is service accessibility. The direct-to-consumer model has some advantages but lacks the extensive service infrastructure that legacy automakers have built over decades. Traditional automakers, through their dealership networks, provide customers with nearby service centers, which startups struggle to match.
Another challenge is quality. Early Tesla models faced criticism for build quality issues, such as panel gaps and inconsistent paintwork. While early adopters might overlook such flaws in exchange for innovative features, mainstream buyers demand high standards of craftsmanship.
Legacy automakers face a different set of challenges as they enter the EV space. For these manufacturers, EVs represent not just a new propulsion option but a shift in how they must engage with customers. Unlike startups, legacy automakers are accustomed to serving a loyal customer base that values simplicity and convenience.
These companies must find ways to educate mainstream buyers about EV technology. Many consumers are unfamiliar with the requirements of EV ownership. Setting up a home charger is beyond the ken of many consumers and battery maintenance doesn’t compute. Dealerships, which have traditionally been transactional in nature, need to evolve into hubs for education and support. Legacy automakers also need to prioritize hassle-free ownership experiences. While startups emphasize cutting-edge features like OTA updates, traditional manufacturers must ensure that every aspect of EV ownership – charging, service, and reliability – is as seamless as possible.
The EV market now sits at a crossroads, appealing to two very different customer groups. On one side are the early adopters and tech enthusiasts who value cutting-edge technology. These folks, often drawn to startups like Tesla or Rivian, are excited by the innovation that EVs offer. They appreciate the concept of a vehicle as a gadget on wheels, offering frequent updates and technological advancements post-purchase. For this group, glitches or minor inconveniences are often forgiven, as they see themselves as pioneers in the tech ecosystem.
On the other side are the mainstream consumers who represent the bulk of car buyers. These customers prioritize reliability, convenience, and value. For them, a car is a practical tool, not a project. They are accustomed to the seamless service and hassle-free experience provided by legacy automakers. Mainstream buyers expect their vehicles to simply work, with minimal interruptions to their routines.
Some factors that currently limit EV adoption are common to both buyer groups. Purchase price remains a significant factor, since EVs still come at a premium compared to internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles. Charging infrastructure is another major hurdle. Startups and legacy automakers alike must find ways to make charging faster, easier, and more reliable.
Automakers must adopt new strategies and address consumer concerns to accelerate EV adoption. Encouraging households to make their second vehicle an EV is one such approach. For many consumers, this offers a low-risk entry point into EV ownership while retaining an ICE vehicle for long trips or emergencies. By positioning EVs as complementary rather than replacement vehicles, automakers can attract hesitant buyers.
In addition, automakers need to invest in the EV ecosystem. This means improving charging infrastructure, expanding service networks, and ensuring that software and hardware support systems are reliable and easy to use. Battery innovation will also play a key role in the future of EVs. Advances in battery technology, such as solid-state batteries, promise greater range and faster charging, addressing two of the most significant concerns among potential buyers.
Finally, automakers must focus on reducing costs to eliminate the price premium associated with EVs. As production scales and battery costs decline, EVs will become more competitive with ICE vehicles, making them accessible to a broader audience.
The transition to electric vehicles is a monumental shift, akin to the adoption of automobiles themselves more than a century ago. Success will depend on the ability of automakers to not only produce innovative vehicles but also to understand and cater to the evolving needs of their varied customers.
Startups must learn to address the practical concerns of mainstream shoppers, while legacy manufacturers must embrace innovation and adopt a customer-first mindset. By addressing infrastructure challenges, prioritizing quality, and offering competitive pricing, the industry can bridge the gap between early adopters and the mass market.
The journey to widespread EV adoption will be challenging, more so with potential cuts to the Inflation Reduction Act based customer subsidies. However, with thoughtful strategies and collaboration, automakers can mitigate the challenges involved in the transition to a cleaner, more sustainable future.
Srini Rajagopalan is managing director and practice leader of automotive advisory & analytics at J.D. Power.
More people around the world recognize Arnold Schwarzenegger as the ‘Terminator’ rather than California’s 38th governor, a high-profile role he filled from 2003 to 2011. A prolific actor and world-class bodybuilder who achieved the titles ‘Mr. Universe’ and ‘Mr. Olympia’ many times over, Schwarzenegger was nominated for the President’s Council on Physical Fitness and Sports by President George H. W. Bush in 1990. Clearly, public service agreed with him. When the Republican ‘Governator’ successfully ran for office in a recall election against then-Governor Gray Davis in 2003, his chances for turning around a state in financial turmoil were widely debated. What occurred during his tenure was strong leadership and a surprising knack for championing both business and the environment. This interview 18 years ago by Green Car Journal editor Ron Cogan shares former Governor Schwarzenegger’s strong views on hydrogen, electric vehicles, alternative fuels, and the need to mitigate air pollution and carbon emissions.
This article shares a 2006 interview of Governor Schwarzenegger by editor/publisher Ron Cogan and is presented as it originally ran in Green Car Journal’s Spring 2006 issue.
Ron Cogan: Air pollution has represented one of California’s epic challenges. How would you say the state’s air quality is doing today?
Gov. Schwarzenegger: “California has made great strides to improve air quality in the past 20 years. There are far fewer Stage One smog alerts, for example, than there were just five or 10 years ago. But so much more remains to be done. That’s why in my Action Plan for California’s Environment, I pledged to reduce air pollution by 50 percent by the end of this decade, and we’ve worked hard to achieve that goal. In my first year in office, we put $140 million a year of permanent funding into the Carl Moyer program and more money into the Breathe Easier campaign, two programs that take the most polluting cars, trucks, and buses off the road and put clean, alternative fuel vehicles in their place. We’ve also put state government on an ‘energy diet’ with my Green Buildings Initiative because electricity generation is another source of air pollution. And in my Strategic Growth Plan, I made air quality a component of our state infrastructure – right up there with roads, mass transit, water projects, and schools.”
RC: Your most high-profile vision for California’s transportation future involves hydrogen. Why this fuel?
Schwarzenegger: “Hydrogen is fantastic because the only emission from the tailpipe is water. It is also a fuel that we can produce in California, instead of relying on oil from foreign countries. In fact, we can make hydrogen from solar power and water; we can make it from biomass that comes from our farms; we can make it from waste materials. It’s the best hope we have to make California and the United States energy independent and end our oil addiction.”
RC: Have you gained the support you were expecting for this hydrogen effort from auto and energy companies?
Schwarzenegger: “Absolutely. They are my partners in the Hydrogen Highway Network and we couldn’t do it without the car companies, the energy companies, the environmental groups, our amazing California universities, and my team at CalEPA. As I always say, we get much more done when we all work together.”
RC: What about political support?
Schwarzenegger: “That’s been fantastic too. The members of the Legislature are my partners and the Hydrogen Highway is a great example of how we can get great things done for the people of California when we work together. And may I add, that we have all enjoyed driving the hydrogen cars that are being demonstrated throughout the state right now.”
RC: How much do you expect a hydrogen fueling infrastructure to cost the state?
Schwarzenegger: “Thanks to the 200 partners who helped us draft the blueprint for the Hydrogen Highway Network, the state is actually investing a very small amount compared to the terrific investments being made by energy companies, automakers, local air districts, the federal government, and many other partners.”
RC: What financial impact would you expect hydrogen vehicles, and the supporting industries surrounding a growing hydrogen vehicle fleet, to have on the state?
Schwarzenegger: “California is already the center of the hydrogen technology revolution. Just like Silicon Valley is to computers, we will see more and more hydrogen businesses starting up or expanding in our state and that’s great for our economy.”
RC: Other states are also striving for hydrogen leadership. How can California stay ahead and attract hydrogen-related business?
Schwarzenegger: “By continuing our partnerships and implementing the vision of the Hydrogen Highway. That’s what was missing from the efforts in every state. No one wanted to build fueling stations without vehicles; and no one wanted to mass produce hydrogen vehicles without a network of fueling stations. We’ve solved that problem and that’s why everyone is coming to California to start the hydrogen economy.”
RC: We’ve heard before that California’s Zero Emission Vehicle mandate had a direct influence on development of Partial Zero Emission Vehicles and on hybrids. Do you see a value in mandates like this?
Schwarzenegger: “Each advance stands on the shoulders of what came before. Hydrogen vehicles will benefit from battery electric car technology and so many other innovations that started right here in California.”
RC: How important are extremely low emission hybrids to our transportation mix?
Schwarzenegger: “Very important. When I visited Japan, Prime Minister Koizumi and I talked about how he was ‘greening’ the government fleet there, both to clean up air pollution and to get more out of limited fuel supplies. We’re doing the same thing here, which is why I launched the ‘Flex Your Power at the Pump’ campaign to educate drivers about how to save as much as 15% of their fuel, which saves money and spares the air.”
RC: What about other alternative fuels like ethanol and natural gas?
Schwarzenegger: “These fuels are important too, because we must end our addiction to oil and while hydrogen vehicles are not yet affordable for everyone, right now you can go out and buy flex fuel vehicles or vehicles that run on natural gas and biofuels.”
RC: You’ve called for substantial reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. What kind of changes will be required for motor vehicles to contribute their share to these reductions?
Schwarzenegger: “We know that vehicles contribute as much as 50 percent of the greenhouse gases, so they will have to make big reductions. That’s why I’ve said all along that I support California’s landmark greenhouse gas reduction law (AB 1493 Pavley) and will defend it in court from the challenges that we know are coming.”
RC: How do you stand on cleaning up school buses?
Schwarzenegger: “My budget each year has provided money to scrap the dirtiest, oldest buses and replace them with cleaner vehicles. I’ve seen the studies that show how bad the air quality is inside those old buses and we must protect our children.”
RC: How important is it to focus on non-road vehicles and other sources to address air pollution?
Schwarzenegger: “Of course, that’s important too. That’s why I appointed Bob Sawyer as Chair of the California Air Resources Board, because he’s the leading scientist on these matters and I know that with our other Board members and the great staff at CARB, we will win the battle against air pollution, no matter what the source.”
RC: California uses an enormous amount of gasoline and diesel fuel. How can the state decrease its vulnerability to price spikes and possible motor fuel shortages?
Schwarzenegger: “We need to expand the use of biodiesel in California and get more of our trucks and buses running on natural gas and other cleaner fuels. Of course, if we reduce our demand for gasoline that also allows refineries to produce more diesel, which reduces the potential for shortages. But the key thing is to move away from petroleum and towards hydrogen and other clean fuels.”
RC: If there was one thing you could do to improve air quality or energy diversity during your time as Governor, what would it be?
Schwarzenegger: “I’d say the key thing is to make sure every Californian understands that each of us is responsible to solve these problems of air pollution and oil addiction. Each of us can walk more or ride a bike, take a bus, drive a fuel-efficient car, promote energy efficiency in the workplace, and take other measures to improve air quality and reduce our dependence on oil. And of course, as soon as hydrogen cars are in the showrooms – within the next few years – I hope everyone will buy them and start driving on California’s Hydrogen Highway!”
It’s the 1990s and you’re looking to drive something different. Imagine piloting a car that was as technologically advanced as a Lamborghini Diablo was fast, and more exclusive in numbers than that decade’s Ferrari F40. Now picture it with a GM emblem on its hood. In your mind’s eye, you’re behind the wheel of the legendary EV1, the first mass produced electric car of our modern age.
This is the car that started it all. While many automakers pursued electric vehicle development programs in the 1990s, it was GM’s Impact concept car, and then the production EV1 that followed, that literally set the modern EV field in motion.
GM turned to efficiencies-focused AeroVironment in California to develop an advanced electric vehicle unlike any other. When it debuted this car, the Impact prototype, at the 1990 LA Auto Show, the mission was to generate excitement. And that it did, courtesy of the Impact’s show-stopping teardrop-shaped plastic body, aluminum spaceframe, and a revolutionary electric propulsion system created by AeroVironment engineer and EV pioneer Alan Cocconi.
The electric EV1, based on the Impact concept but highly refined beneath the skin, emerged at Saturn dealers six years later. The EV1 was special, it was silent, and it was fast. Without the engine braking effect of a gas engine and with its regenerative braking setting adjusted accordingly, after lifting off the throttle it seemed to coast forever in a relatively friction-free state. Overall, it was seductive to drive, and if your mind wandered you could imagine piloting the era’s F-14 Tomcat on the street… and that doesn’t happen every day. We know, because we spent a year driving an EV1 on the roads and highways of California, one of the select areas where the EV1 was available.
The EV1 came to market with a slew of all-new technologies that are common today, from low rolling resistance tires to regenerative braking and keyless ignition. Accelerating from 0 to 60 mph took about eight seconds. The Gen 1 model had an estimated 50 to 95 mile driving range on its advanced lead-acid batteries.
Later, GM introduced Gen 2 EV1s with more advanced and power dense nickel-metal-hydride batteries that enabled an EV1 to travele an estimated 75 to 140 miles. Energizing both Gen 1 and Gen 2 batteries was handled with a unique charging paddle that transferred electrical energy via magnetic induction, without a hard connection between the paddle and car.
During its short lifetime, only 1,117 EV1s were built and these were leased only, with no purchase available. Leasing was a nod to GM’s need to maintain ultimate ownership over highly advanced and extremely expensive-to-produce vehicles, using all-new technology, that were being fielded in a limited way to feel out the market. Initially offered at a lease cost of $640 per month with financial incentives that brought this down to $480, the EV1’s lease terms evolved over time to be as low as $349.
Ultimately, this chapter of GM’s continuing electric vehicle story ended abruptly. The program was discontinued in 2002 and all EV1s were required to be returned at their end-of-lease, either making their way to the crusher or donated as inoperable examples to museums and other institutions, never to be seen on the highway again.
Manufactured in Tennessee on Volkswagen’s MEB modular world electric car platform, the 2021 VW ID.4 presents a new and compelling all-electric SUV that enters a segment presently dominated by Tesla, Chevrolet, and a select few others. What ID.4 brings to the battery electric SUV segment that Tesla doesn’t is price, coming in at a base cost of $39,995, some $10,000 less than Tesla’s Model Y.
For this, electric vehicle buyers get SUV hatchback utility, three-foot legroom in all seating positions, and ample luggage capacity for 5 adults. VW estimates ID.4 driving range at 250 mile on a full charge, and additionally points out that an additional 60 miles of range is attainable in just 10 minutes from a public DC quick-charge station.
Sporting a stature similar to that of Honda’s CR-V, the Volkswagen ID.4 rides on a steel-framed architecture featuring strut-like front suspension and multi-link suspension with coil-over shocks at the rear. This, combined with a long wheelbase and short overhangs, promises a smooth ride dynamic. Braking is handled by front disk and rear drum brakes.
A single permanent magnet, synchronous electric motor directs power to the rear wheels. The ID.4 produces 201 horsepower and 228 lb-ft torque that’s expected to deliver a 60 mph sprint in about 8 seconds. Electricity to power the motor is provided by an air-cooled, frame-integrated 82 KWh lithium-ion modular cell battery. An onboard 11KW charger enables three charge modes via standard 110-volt household power, 220-volt Level 2 charging, or DC fast charging. Typical charging with a home wall charger or public Level 2 charger will bring a full charge in 6 to 7 hours.
A minimalistic yet futuresque cabin with segment leading cabin volume rounds out ID.4’s architecture. Features include a driver-centric, touch sensitive steering wheel and a view-forward 5.3-inch ID information center that replaces conventional gauges. Vehicle operation is through steering wheel-mounted switches, with infotainment, climate control, device connectivity, navigation, and travel information accessed through a 10.3 inch touchscreen monitor. A 12 inch monitor is available with the model’s Statement Package.
Topping the list of features is expanded voice command and a communicative dash-integrated ID light bar. ‘Intuitive Start’ driver key fob recognition enables pre-start cabin conditioning capability. Base model upholstery is ballistic cloth with leatherette seat surfaces optional.
Volkswagen’s IQ Drive driver assist and active safety suite features travel assist, lane assist, adaptive cruise control, front and rear sensors, emergency assist, blinds spot monitoring, rear traffic watch and more. All this comes standard along with Pro Navigation, a heated steering wheel and front seats, wireless phone charging, and app connectivity for compatible devices.
The ID.4 EV is available in six colors and two trim levels, Gradient and Statement, for personalization. The optional Gradient package features a black roof, silver roof trim, silver accents, and silver roof rails along with 20-inch wheels to complete the upscale look. Looking forward, while rear-wheel drive is the choice today, Volkswagen is already talking up an all-wheel drive variant for early 2021 along with a lower-priced base model.
As the world’s largest automotive group, Volkswagen has the capacity to change the ever-expanding electric-car landscape. Looking at the style and utility of VW’s all-new ID.4, you can sense the renewed “people’s car” direction of the brand that accompanies the automaker’s commitment to electrification. VW says it’s aiming at selling 20 million electric cars based on the MEB electric car platform by model year 2029. Certainly, the potential for selling in truly significant numbers is reinforced by ID.4 pre-orders selling-out in just weeks, it’s safe to say.